Latest UK version

Jim Nicholls · Joined: 20 Jan 2008 Posts: 4

Is the latest UK version 2005?
Amazon is out of stock at present, maybe waiting for a newer version.

I have Quicken 2002 and on deciding to update. found they don't sell it here
anymore.
I presume I can import my file from Quicken in to MS Money (Quicken is
working OK)

Jim

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teabag · Joined: 02 Aug 2007 Posts: 93

The latest UK version of Money is 2005 and earlier UK versions of Money are
better in certain respects.

Do you KNOW that Money has features, important to you, that Quicken 2002
does not have? Or do you just want to change?

Money includes a converter from Quicken. It is possible that old (pre 2002)
versions of Money would not convert your Quicken 2002 datafile.

My advice would be to buy a second-hand copy of Money 2002 through eBay, if
you think it is essential to migrate. If you are prepared to take a risk (of
Quicken conversion not working) go for Money 2001 or Money 2000 but do not
go earlier than that.

teabag

"Jim Nicholls" wrote in message@microsoft.com...
> Is the latest UK version 2005?
> Amazon is out of stock at present, maybe waiting for a newer version.
>
> I have Quicken 2002 and on deciding to update. found they don't sell it
> here
> anymore.
> I presume I can import my file from Quicken in to MS Money (Quicken is
> working OK)
>
> Jim
>
>

Bob Peel, MVP · Joined: 02 Aug 2007 Posts: 767

M2005 is the latest UK version although Amazon confusingly call it 2004 -
that was the year it was released.

Agree that Amazon per se are waiting for stock but there are other sellers
listed with it in stock.

We haven't heard of a newer version so don't hold your breath waiting.

Money version n can usually convert up to Quicken n-1.

--
Regards
Bob Peel,
Microsoft MVP - Money

For UK tips & fixes see
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;EN-GB;mny.

I do not respond to any emails that I have not specifically asked for.

"Jim Nicholls" wrote in message @microsoft.com...
> Is the latest UK version 2005?
> Amazon is out of stock at present, maybe waiting for a newer version.
>
> I have Quicken 2002 and on deciding to update. found they don't sell it
> here
> anymore.
> I presume I can import my file from Quicken in to MS Money (Quicken is
> working OK)
>
> Jim
>
>

Jim Nicholls · Joined: 20 Jan 2008 Posts: 4

Thanks for your response tebag (and Bob)

I thought this was probably the case from reading other posts.
No, I don't know that Money has anything I want. It was just the fear of
Quicken getting corrupted as I have a lot of data in it
(though I do backups, and backups of backups!)
In fact, I bought quicken instead of Money at the time as it seemed by far
the cleaner and faster program
Also the fact that if my machine goes phut, I was concerned about whether I
would have registration problems with Quicken (and the share price quotes
have just stopped updating) Maybe they have pulled the plug on it.
Sorry, rather a long answer to a short question.

Regards,
Jim

"teabag" wrote:

> The latest UK version of Money is 2005 and earlier UK versions of Money are
> better in certain respects.
>
> Do you KNOW that Money has features, important to you, that Quicken 2002
> does not have? Or do you just want to change?
>
> Money includes a converter from Quicken. It is possible that old (pre 2002)
> versions of Money would not convert your Quicken 2002 datafile.
>
> My advice would be to buy a second-hand copy of Money 2002 through eBay, if
> you think it is essential to migrate. If you are prepared to take a risk (of
> Quicken conversion not working) go for Money 2001 or Money 2000 but do not
> go earlier than that.
>
> teabag
>
>
>
> "Jim Nicholls" wrote in message
> @microsoft.com...
> > Is the latest UK version 2005?
> > Amazon is out of stock at present, maybe waiting for a newer version.
> >
> > I have Quicken 2002 and on deciding to update. found they don't sell it
> > here
> > anymore.
> > I presume I can import my file from Quicken in to MS Money (Quicken is
> > working OK)
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
>
>
>
>

Glyn Simpson, MVP · Joined: 02 Aug 2007 Posts: 33

I think you might have registration problems, but someone who is currently
using it may be able to answer that correctly.

In the UK, Money is sold in 2 products - Money 2005 and in the Microsoft
Premium 2005 pack (which includes other software too), so check both

http://astore.amazon.co.uk/microsoftmone-21/detail/B0002WV7TO/026-1234676-3582023 -
Money 2005
http://astore.amazon.co.uk/microsoftmone-21/detail/B000CBNV6W/026-1234676-3582023 -
Premium Pack 2005

--
Glyn Simpson, Microsoft MVP - Money
http://money.mvps.org

See http://money.mvps.org/faq/default.aspx for tips and fixes for MS Money.
To send Microsoft your product wishes see http://money.mvps.org/wishes.aspx

I do not respond to any unsolicited email regarding Money

"Jim Nicholls" wrote in message @microsoft.com...
> Thanks for your response tebag (and Bob)
>
> I thought this was probably the case from reading other posts.
> No, I don't know that Money has anything I want. It was just the fear of
> Quicken getting corrupted as I have a lot of data in it
> (though I do backups, and backups of backups!)
> In fact, I bought quicken instead of Money at the time as it seemed by far
> the cleaner and faster program
> Also the fact that if my machine goes phut, I was concerned about whether
> I
> would have registration problems with Quicken (and the share price quotes
> have just stopped updating) Maybe they have pulled the plug on it.
> Sorry, rather a long answer to a short question.
>
> Regards,
> Jim
>
>
> "teabag" wrote:
>
>> The latest UK version of Money is 2005 and earlier UK versions of Money
>> are
>> better in certain respects.
>>
>> Do you KNOW that Money has features, important to you, that Quicken 2002
>> does not have? Or do you just want to change?
>>
>> Money includes a converter from Quicken. It is possible that old (pre
>> 2002)
>> versions of Money would not convert your Quicken 2002 datafile.
>>
>> My advice would be to buy a second-hand copy of Money 2002 through eBay,
>> if
>> you think it is essential to migrate. If you are prepared to take a risk
>> (of
>> Quicken conversion not working) go for Money 2001 or Money 2000 but do
>> not
>> go earlier than that.
>>
>> teabag
>>
>>
>>
>> "Jim Nicholls" wrote in message
>> @microsoft.com...
>> > Is the latest UK version 2005?
>> > Amazon is out of stock at present, maybe waiting for a newer version.
>> >
>> > I have Quicken 2002 and on deciding to update. found they don't sell it
>> > here
>> > anymore.
>> > I presume I can import my file from Quicken in to MS Money (Quicken is
>> > working OK)
>> >
>> > Jim
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>

teabag · Joined: 02 Aug 2007 Posts: 93

Jim,

I use Money 2000 and I have successfully installed it on a relatively new
3.2MHz PC running Windows XP. Whilst I was invited to register with
Microsoft, I did not do so on this PC (I had done so back in 2000 on my old
Windows 98SE PC). It all works perfectly.

According to the EULA (so I understand), the most recent versions of UK
Money will only permit Online Services downloads for a limited period of
time. Older versions of Money, including mine, do not have this restriction.

On Money, share price downloads work most of the time but not all the time.
Almost invariably the problem is with the server - but Microsoft, MSN and
Morningstar will not, as a rule, ever admit that it is their fault (the
fault of one of them).

It is not very likely that your Quicken program (as opposed to your data
file) will get corrupted; but if you have the original Quicken CD you should
be able to re-install, and you obviously have uncorrupt backups of your data
file. You should have no need to worry.

Good luck

teabag

"Jim Nicholls" wrote in message @microsoft.com...
> Thanks for your response tebag (and Bob)
>
> I thought this was probably the case from reading other posts.
> No, I don't know that Money has anything I want. It was just the fear of
> Quicken getting corrupted as I have a lot of data in it
> (though I do backups, and backups of backups!)
> In fact, I bought quicken instead of Money at the time as it seemed by far
> the cleaner and faster program
> Also the fact that if my machine goes phut, I was concerned about whether
> I
> would have registration problems with Quicken (and the share price quotes
> have just stopped updating) Maybe they have pulled the plug on it.
> Sorry, rather a long answer to a short question.
>
> Regards,
> Jim

Piers James · Joined: 02 Aug 2007 Posts: 14

Money 2005 may be available cheaply, but I would do as teabag suggested and
look for a 2nd hand 2002, preferably the Financial Suite version. That's
what I use, and haven't found any later version a worthwhile upgrade after
testing the trials of 2003, 4 and 5.

"Glyn Simpson, MVP" wrote in message $Oc.147@lon04-news-philips...
>I think you might have registration problems, but someone who is currently
>using it may be able to answer that correctly.
>
> In the UK, Money is sold in 2 products - Money 2005 and in the Microsoft
> Premium 2005 pack (which includes other software too), so check both
>
> http://astore.amazon.co.uk/microsoftmone-21/detail/B0002WV7TO/026-1234676-3582023 -
> Money 2005
> http://astore.amazon.co.uk/microsoftmone-21/detail/B000CBNV6W/026-1234676-3582023 -
> Premium Pack 2005
>
> --
> Glyn Simpson, Microsoft MVP - Money
> http://money.mvps.org
>
> See http://money.mvps.org/faq/default.aspx for tips and fixes for MS
> Money.
> To send Microsoft your product wishes see
> http://money.mvps.org/wishes.aspx
>
> I do not respond to any unsolicited email regarding Money
>
> "Jim Nicholls" wrote in message
> @microsoft.com...
>> Thanks for your response tebag (and Bob)
>>
>> I thought this was probably the case from reading other posts.
>> No, I don't know that Money has anything I want. It was just the fear of
>> Quicken getting corrupted as I have a lot of data in it
>> (though I do backups, and backups of backups!)
>> In fact, I bought quicken instead of Money at the time as it seemed by
>> far
>> the cleaner and faster program
>> Also the fact that if my machine goes phut, I was concerned about whether
>> I
>> would have registration problems with Quicken (and the share price quotes
>> have just stopped updating) Maybe they have pulled the plug on it.
>> Sorry, rather a long answer to a short question.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> "teabag" wrote:
>>
>>> The latest UK version of Money is 2005 and earlier UK versions of Money
>>> are
>>> better in certain respects.
>>>
>>> Do you KNOW that Money has features, important to you, that Quicken 2002
>>> does not have? Or do you just want to change?
>>>
>>> Money includes a converter from Quicken. It is possible that old (pre
>>> 2002)
>>> versions of Money would not convert your Quicken 2002 datafile.
>>>
>>> My advice would be to buy a second-hand copy of Money 2002 through eBay,
>>> if
>>> you think it is essential to migrate. If you are prepared to take a risk
>>> (of
>>> Quicken conversion not working) go for Money 2001 or Money 2000 but do
>>> not
>>> go earlier than that.
>>>
>>> teabag
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jim Nicholls" wrote in message
>>> @microsoft.com...
>>> > Is the latest UK version 2005?
>>> > Amazon is out of stock at present, maybe waiting for a newer version.
>>> >
>>> > I have Quicken 2002 and on deciding to update. found they don't sell
>>> > it
>>> > here
>>> > anymore.
>>> > I presume I can import my file from Quicken in to MS Money (Quicken is
>>> > working OK)
>>> >
>>> > Jim
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>

Jim Nicholls · Joined: 20 Jan 2008 Posts: 4

Teabag,
I'v tried re-installing on another machine and it works fine. Registration
appears to be optional in this version. The quotes are also downloading OK,
does not appear to be a time limit on the UK version (just had some naf
tickers in there).
Also found my backup was not backing up the right directory!, so a useful DR
exercise.
For interest, I downloaded the latest trial version of Money Deluxe (US
version) and that also imports the data and runs fine. Even displays £ sign
without any tweaking.
HOWEVER, I'm sure there are reasons not to use this with UK data so I won't
chance it. Shame because it is a cleaner interface and the reports are better.

Regards, Jim

>
> I use Money 2000 and I have successfully installed it on a relatively new
> 3.2MHz PC running Windows XP. Whilst I was invited to register with
> Microsoft, I did not do so on this PC (I had done so back in 2000 on my old
> Windows 98SE PC). It all works perfectly.
>
> According to the EULA (so I understand), the most recent versions of UK
> Money will only permit Online Services downloads for a limited period of
> time. Older versions of Money, including mine, do not have this restriction.
>
> On Money, share price downloads work most of the time but not all the time.
> Almost invariably the problem is with the server - but Microsoft, MSN and
> Morningstar will not, as a rule, ever admit that it is their fault (the
> fault of one of them).
>
> It is not very likely that your Quicken program (as opposed to your data
> file) will get corrupted; but if you have the original Quicken CD you should
> be able to re-install, and you obviously have uncorrupt backups of your data
> file. You should have no need to worry.
>
> Good luck
>
> teabag
>

Jim Nicholls · Joined: 20 Jan 2008 Posts: 4

Hello Glyn,
I've re-installed as a test on another machine, registration of Quicken
appears to be optional so no issues there. I wonder why they don't update the
UK version of Money. The US (deluxe) trial version looks pretty good.

Regards,
Jim

"Glyn Simpson, MVP" wrote:

> I think you might have registration problems, but someone who is currently
> using it may be able to answer that correctly.
>
> In the UK, Money is sold in 2 products - Money 2005 and in the Microsoft
> Premium 2005 pack (which includes other software too), so check both
>
> http://astore.amazon.co.uk/microsoftmone-21/detail/B0002WV7TO/026-1234676-3582023 -
> Money 2005
> http://astore.amazon.co.uk/microsoftmone-21/detail/B000CBNV6W/026-1234676-3582023 -
> Premium Pack 2005
>
> --
> Glyn Simpson, Microsoft MVP - Money
> http://money.mvps.org
>
> See http://money.mvps.org/faq/default.aspx for tips and fixes for MS Money.
> To send Microsoft your product wishes see http://money.mvps.org/wishes.aspx
>
> I do not respond to any unsolicited email regarding Money
>

Bob Peel, MVP · Joined: 02 Aug 2007 Posts: 767

Jim, if you just want simple account tracking and share prices (well I'd
rather not look right now), then you can use the US version. However if you
want to use the capital gains reports and so on then they will be built for
US accounting/tax laws.

Also "IF" MS produce a UK version in the future then it won't be able to
read your US version file.

--
Regards
Bob Peel,
Microsoft MVP - Money

For UK tips & fixes see
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;EN-GB;mny.

I do not respond to any emails that I have not specifically asked for.

"Jim Nicholls" wrote in message @microsoft.com...
> Teabag,
> I'v tried re-installing on another machine and it works fine. Registration
> appears to be optional in this version. The quotes are also downloading
> OK,
> does not appear to be a time limit on the UK version (just had some naf
> tickers in there).
> Also found my backup was not backing up the right directory!, so a useful
> DR
> exercise.
> For interest, I downloaded the latest trial version of Money Deluxe (US
> version) and that also imports the data and runs fine. Even displays £
> sign
> without any tweaking.
> HOWEVER, I'm sure there are reasons not to use this with UK data so I
> won't
> chance it. Shame because it is a cleaner interface and the reports are
> better.
>
> Regards, Jim
>
>
>>
>> I use Money 2000 and I have successfully installed it on a relatively new
>> 3.2MHz PC running Windows XP. Whilst I was invited to register with
>> Microsoft, I did not do so on this PC (I had done so back in 2000 on my
>> old
>> Windows 98SE PC). It all works perfectly.
>>
>> According to the EULA (so I understand), the most recent versions of UK
>> Money will only permit Online Services downloads for a limited period of
>> time. Older versions of Money, including mine, do not have this
>> restriction.
>>
>> On Money, share price downloads work most of the time but not all the
>> time.
>> Almost invariably the problem is with the server - but Microsoft, MSN and
>> Morningstar will not, as a rule, ever admit that it is their fault (the
>> fault of one of them).
>>
>> It is not very likely that your Quicken program (as opposed to your data
>> file) will get corrupted; but if you have the original Quicken CD you
>> should
>> be able to re-install, and you obviously have uncorrupt backups of your
>> data
>> file. You should have no need to worry.
>>
>> Good luck
>>
>> teabag
>>

Max · Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Posts: 10

I'm interested in downgrading to UK 2002. Is this a simple process?
For example, I can't imagine 2002 being able to read my 2005 file?

Max

Glyn Simpson, MVP · Joined: 02 Aug 2007 Posts: 77

NOt really, unless you've only just upgraded. 2002 will not read a 2005 file
(or a 2003, 2004 for that matter). The way you'd need to do it is to use QIF
export/import (http://money.mvps.org/faq/article/28.aspx)

If you've recently upgraded and need to revert, then a saved copy of your
previous file will have been made which you could go back to.

--
Glyn Simpson, Microsoft MVP - Money
http://money.mvps.org

See http://money.mvps.org/faq/default.aspx for tips and fixes for MS Money.
To send Microsoft your product wishes see http://money.mvps.org/wishes.aspx

I do not respond to any unsolicited email regarding Money

"Max" wrote in message @d70g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> I'm interested in downgrading to UK 2002. Is this a simple process?
> For example, I can't imagine 2002 being able to read my 2005 file?
>
> Max

teabag · Joined: 02 Aug 2007 Posts: 93

Greetings Max,

Follow Glyn's advice, if you decide to go back.

You can make the validation process much easier if you have (the use of) 2
computers (desktops or laptops) sitting side by side - with one running
Money 2005 (or where you are now) and the other running the earlier version
that you choose to go back to. Simply scroll through each account and make
sure all transactions look exactly the same.

Good luck

teabag

"Glyn Simpson, MVP" wrote in message @microsoft.com...
> NOt really, unless you've only just upgraded. 2002 will not read a 2005
> file (or a 2003, 2004 for that matter). The way you'd need to do it is to
> use QIF export/import (http://money.mvps.org/faq/article/28.aspx)
>
> If you've recently upgraded and need to revert, then a saved copy of your
> previous file will have been made which you could go back to.
>
> --
> Glyn Simpson, Microsoft MVP - Money
> http://money.mvps.org
>
> See http://money.mvps.org/faq/default.aspx for tips and fixes for MS
> Money.
> To send Microsoft your product wishes see
> http://money.mvps.org/wishes.aspx
>
> I do not respond to any unsolicited email regarding Money
>
>
> "Max" wrote in message
> @d70g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>> I'm interested in downgrading to UK 2002. Is this a simple process?
>> For example, I can't imagine 2002 being able to read my 2005 file?
>>
>> Max
>

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